Best of KCFORUM.NET - 9th Edition
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Don't be confused. I have led off this weekend's update with more Greg Hall OTC comments, followed by some of the latest kcforum.net quotes. Don't forget about our KCFORUM.NET Convention on Thursday, Oct 9th, 5pm, Minsky's at 427 Main. Hope to see you there!


OTC Comments

GH: "Not that I want to rain on anyone’s continued homage to the late Johnny Cash and John Ritter, but why are these two performers being so idolized? Cash was a fine vocalist and a decent songwriter but his talents were no better than hundreds before him. His best attribute was that he refused to retire. Ritter, who seemed like a nice guy, was an awful ver-the-top comedic actor who lowered the bar for television and our culture with his hit how, Three’s Company. Tex Ritter’s boy never would have gotten out of the community layhouse circuit had he not been born into the business."
W: I nearly jumped through my computer screen when I read this. Don't worry, folks. This is just a case of Greg trying to get us to send him some hate mail for his Tuesday column. Johnny Cash might not have been the greatest of talents, but he was/is clearly a country music icon. CMT knew it when they placed "Ring of Fire" in their All-Time Top 10 Songs of Country Music earlier this year. As for John Ritter? Puh-leeze! Three's Company (along with All In The Family) helped change the face of television to what it is today. Maybe Greg's too old to realize this, but John Ritter was loved by many. Was he a fantastic actor? No, but he had an uncanny ability to magically appear in your living room every night his show was on TV. For those of you who grew up watching Three's Company, tell me you didn't feel like you had lost an old friend when you caught the news of Ritter's death.

GH: "(Steven)St. John is just flat funny. Too bad no one on the planet hears his FM radio show."
W: Now that he's gone, everyone rants about how great he was/is. When he was around, I never heard anyone talk about how great he was. There were times when I listened to him when I thought he was God-awful. I guess I need another dose of St. John on the AM - and I'm guessing it'll be happening soon - in the AM.

GH:"Priest broke out his trademark touchdown glide again in Houston. All I’m saying is if he’s gonna dance for the cameras during the game, he needs to talk to the microphones after it’s over."
W: I used to think players owed it to the fans to give interviews after the game, etc. Nowadays, I just don't give a damn. Priest might be our favorite player to watch, but frankly, I think he's acquired a bit of an attitude. I don't really care to hear what the next stupid thing is he has to say. Let him keep it zipped. But he still needs to stop that stupid looking glide.

GH: "Rush isn’t sold on the Chiefs, which is good to see. There has been so much positive national pub on the Chiefs that it has been kind of worrisome. Nice to see a national loudmouth question the Chiefs’ credibility. BTW, I think Rush is excellent on this show. He would have made MNF a must-see TV event if ABC had cast him instead of Dennis Miller."
W: Rush Limbaugh on ESPN's NFL Countdown Show reminds me of Garth Brooks playing for the San Diego Padres. What a rip off. Give me someone other than a wanna-be, please. And thank God MNF didn't take him a few years ago. Dennis Miller was bad enough. (Has anyone else noticed that Mr. Hall prefers wind-bags?)

GH: "Big test Sunday at Baltimore for the Chiefs D, facing the league’s leading rusher in Jamal Lewis. The Chiefs play in back-to-back marquee games starting with the Ravens and then the undefeated Broncos. Two wins here and there will be no stopping the Chiefs’ Super Bowl express. But we know well how the one-and-done playoffs guarantee nothing."
W: One thing is for sure. The Chiefs are going to lose some games this season. They better, anyway, because KC sports talk radio needs something negative to talk about!

GH: "Both 810 and 610 are running lame radio games to spike listener interest that are as old as Marconi. 610 is taking the 61st caller (how would you like to know that loser?) and 810 is asking listeners to sit on blocks of ice (probably the 60 people who missed out on being the 61st caller). What it all boils down to is me turning my dial looking for something fresh, fun and entertaining. Somebody tell the two new sports giants that raiding Randy Miller’s book of radio gags is not good radio."
W: Well said. My advice? Go back to square one, produce a good show, and stop worrying about your neighbor. The first station to do this will probably win the battle.

GH: "'Who is watching the WNBA? There are more people at my house than there are at a WNBA game. I went to a WNBA game once. I sat on the floor and looked around and I thought I’d been kidnapped by lumberjacks!' Jay Moore, comedian, Jim Rome Show"
W: Damnit, Greg! It's Jay M-O-H-R!!!! Do you need to hire a fact-checker? I won't charge much. My email addy is above.

GH:"That’s about 6,265 consecutive days of running. Clinkscale said he typically runs five miles each day and never runs less than three. There are worse vices, but it takes a special spouse to put up with an addiction like this."
W: It kind of depends on when he's running. If it's during intimate moments with his spouse, it might be causing some problems. Thankfully, The Clink can get some good marital advice in the studio during those long commercial breaks.

GH:"If you want to know why the Cats dropped from sixth to 16th, here’s your answer. No one in the national media thinks K-State is a real power - and you can blame Snyder’s scheduling formula for that perception."
W: Snyder is terribly stubborn about his poor scheduling habits. The problem for Wildcat fans? If he someday decides to break the mold, they'll probably end up 7-4 or 8-3, at best. I guess maybe he is doing the right thing, don't you think?

GH: "Where is the honesty in play-by-play broadcasting? Jim Rose, Nebraska’s radio voice, is the only broadcaster I’ve heard since Harry Carey who is willing to criticize the home team while the game is going on."
W: For the love of God, Greg! It's Harry C-A-R-A-Y!!!! $10 per column, twice a week, I'm yours. Email me now because this is getting embarassing - for you.

GH: "Don’t knock those reality shows! I caught the debut of the new Survivor and it is incredible."
W: I caught the season premiere of ABC's The Bachelor. It seems Bob Guiney has lost 30 pounds (you listening, Whitlock?) and a bit of his sense of humor. Instead of being witty and clever like he was on The Bachelorette, he's acting quite serious about his task - trying to find a wife amongst 25 hotties.

GH: "How about it boys? Can we expect to see Pork Chop vs. H2K again this November? The Turkey Bowl idea originated on Whitlock’s morning show so I would expect him to retain the rights. A “Whitlock versus Holden Kushner” battle just doesn’t hold the same juice."
W: I think it's a fantastic idea. They probably should just promote it as "810 vs 610".

GH: "Why limit yourself? Hit that button and surf the dial like I do. How many refinancing commercials do you need to hear anyway?"
W: I said the same thing in our forum this last week.

KCFORUM.NET QUOTES

"When my daughter was born, she was sooo beautiful, I felt like I had to eat the placenta." - HuskerBen

"I'm willing to show my man boobies (to win a vintage 1510 prize)." - Phat Endy
W: Now we know for certain the word "phat" has double meaning.

"I think I do a pretty good imitation of Z-Man...but I usually have to be sitting on the toilet to do it correctly." - westmar
W: If I make myself laugh, I have to quote myself, don't I?

"I don't know all the details on WW on Rome. It's my understanding that he called Kevin and left a message on his voice mail afterwards, apologizing for the call. About a week later, he called the show as Little Bill. Kevin went to break then talked to him off the air. I do not know what happened in that conversation." - leabonics
W: Huh? Something's not right here.

"I just really don't understand why you guys are so mad at us for it. It just doesn't make sense for us to pay for a place for people to anonymously bash us without recourse." - leabonics
W: I don't know about you, but I'm starting to think that Leabo is a glutton for punishment. Why is he suddenly making his presence known in our forum after all of this time? Why has it taken him this long to say "why are you mad"? Because of 61 Sports, that's why.

"Now here's my favorite part. I realize us old 810 posters were only a drop in the bucket of your audience.......But we were YOUR audience. And at the time most of us would have just rolled right on by Hummer-Gate. But instead you axed a board without even the courtesy of saying thanks to your members and left us all out to dry. So much for Powered By Fans. Little did y'all realize how proactive that drop in the bucket was and how YOUR ex-members would band together here to keet the coals warm and wait for the media to finally out the story." - Paintman
W: When Paintman speaks, Westmar listens. Well said.

"Todd, there's a reason why maas had the same complaints as me." - bigsexy
W: It concerns me that a journalist would urinate all over his English book like this, even if it's only on a message board.

"Pell, cut Soylent Green some slack, anyone can pronounce his name: G-R-E-G H-A-L-L." - KC Mouth

"I have a heck of a hard time pronouncing English names correctly..." - Colonel Klink

"Bubba, You know what needs to be done behind the grassy knoll. Take out the beaker. repeat. Take out the beaker." - Stromyle

"Fella-I've found that if you add the word "douchebag" to any post it greatly increases your odds of being quoted at Westy's site." - Hot Carl
W: Maybe yes, and maybe no. Read on!

"I guess you can say this site (kcforum.net) is 'POWERED BY THE FANS'" - dafella
W: Tah-dah! Hurray for dafella!

"Actually I thought he was a douchebag used to clean out placenta. Oh yeah, that my friends is the Full Westmar Monty." - O&A Army

"I've heard the rumors about KC Paul....and they were right.....this guy blows." - Sidecar Willie

OTC Comments:

GH: "Boeger may have simply weighed the cost of “supporting” the 350-pound Pork Chop against letting him go and opted for the more cost-effective move."
W: I have to give Greg credit. He always under-estimates Pork Chop's weight. 350 makes me chuckle!

GH: "How many times over the past four years have we heard Pork Chop tell his listeners how much he admired, respected and yes, even loved Kevin Kietzman? He spoke of their deep friendship and how people just didn’t understand how close they were. As I listen to Pork Chop’s new show, I wonder what he’ll be saying about his new Entercom employers and coworkers four years from now."
W: Four years? Try four months!

GH: "That said, I think (Jimmy The Freak) is a great addition to the local sports talk scene. He was a hilarious caller and has a wickedly quick X-rated wit. The more air time he gets the better the chance Pork Chop’s show has of being more than a clone of KK’s BTL."
W: Afterall, "wickedly quick x-rated wit" belongs on local sports talk show.

GH: "Just how good is KU’s Bill Whittemore? He is the best quarterback in the Big 12. If he were playing for K-State this fall, he’d be as well known nationally as Ell, MU’s Brad Smith and OU’s Jason White."
W: Bull-puckey! Whittemore is good, but he's clearly not the best QB in the Big 12. What a bunch of yellow journalism.

GH: "Rome’s show is a huge lead-in for Kietzman’s afternoon show. It may prove to be at least as devastating to his ratings as the Maas Exodus. No one is more aware of this than KK."
W: At first glance, I wanted to disagree with this. After a deep breath I realized just how true this statement is. If Jim Rome was leaving the KC market completely, it wouldn't be so bad for KK. But since he's heading over to the competition to be the lead-in for KK's arch enemy, it IS a big deal. Too bad, so sad.

GH: "You have to wonder what Leabo will be saying about KK’s show after his partners eventually pull the plug on KK and send him to the land of Duke Frye."
W: That's what I've been trying to tell Leabo but I don't think he's listening.

GH: "Petro’s sign off was real, something far too rare in radio today. He cried, he blubbered and he cursed himself for not being able to control his emotions. It was the best radio of the week, in a week filled with phony words from both Pork Chop and KK telling us how honest they are. It should be no surprise that the most honest guy of that threesome is the one out of work here in KC in the wonderful world of sports talk radio."
W: I really wish I could've heard him cry on the air. While it's probably true that Petro's sign-off was the best and most honest radio of the week, I'd like to tell a truth of my own. Mr. Petro, I think you know baseball. And I often tuned you in to hear some of your Royals thoughts while KK was talking in circles and contradicting himself. But you need to stay off the radio...your stuttering and yammering makes for a broacast that is quite difficult to listen to.

GH: "Did you notice that Priest went wingless in his three trips to the end zone Sunday?"
W: And it was all thanks to you and me, Greg!

WHB Eavesdroppers
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I'd like to take a moment to thank dafella for his impressive detective work that exposed WHB posters in our forum. He's a little distraught that he is not getting quoted on this site, but it's nothing personal. We can't have everything in life, dafella. Not unless we have our own sports talk radio show, anyway.

As a footnote to the WHB posters, I contacted the user named "triplow" on Wednesday via u2u and asked him to comment on the rumor that he is a Union Broadcasting employee.

"As good as I think I would be on the radio, unfortunately I work (at) Ford," he told me. "I just discovered the post today that I'm Joe Arens."

It's worth noting the way he spelled "Arens". In my original u2u, I spelled it "Ahrens". Makes me wonder if he knows something we don't. If anyone knows for sure how this Joe Ahrens/Arens/Aarons-guy spells his name, please drop me a line.

Triplow concluded his email by saying, "I'm no techno dude, but I would like to know how my post(s) are connected with WHB. This may be a dumb question, but how do they think I'm connected??"

I replied to him with an explanation, and I have not heard a peep from him since. In fact, my reply has a time stamp of 11:58 AM on Sept 17th. Triplow's last post was 11:50 AM on Sept 17th. Anyone else see a connection?

Best of KCFORUM.NET - 8th Edition
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Well, the much anticipated 610 Sports has been launched, but we will have to wait awhile before we can get a true gauge on whether people can stand listening to it. For one thing, I have to stand on top of my house with a roll of tin foil in each hand to hear the damn signal. That, in itself, is going to KILL them if they don't boost their power. Also, KC sports is currently quite boring. The Royals are pooping in their diapers and the Chiefs haven't pissed one down their leg yet. When controversy, mayhem, and a losing streak hit Kansas City, you can bet we will find out who is taking the reigns as KC's sports talk leader.

I have to admire 810's Todd Leabo for joining us at kcforum.net on Friday. I can't help but read and strongly consider every word he posts because he seems to know the true meaning of the word "communication", unlike a former 810 employee who likes to show up at our playground and post three word sentences that end in a grunt and a fart. Is everything Leabo tells us true? Possibly, but it's probably skewed somewhat. Hey, who doesn't do that? The truth is, he answered my questions before I had the chance to ask them. That's why I haven't said much in the thread. Have I believed every word he's said? Nope. Am I a big Leabo fan? Not really, but I would like to hear him on the air more often and The Clink a hell of a lot less. I enjoy reading Leabo's posts because they seem fairly honest and refreshing, they're lengthy enough to explain things even to the lowest of IQ's at kcforum.net, and he's not Whitlock.


"I've been reviewing some of my college music this eveining. After reviewing some of Alanis' stuff, I've decided that she might be a handful if you ever pissed her off." - Original Stonie

"The only 'MU sources' Jack Harry has are the voices from the little squirrels running around in his head. His sources are as fake as his 'fake laugh'!!" - Colonel Klink

"Paint, if you're gonna knock my hood why don't you be a man and slap your pee wee against my azz?" - Original Stonie

"IF WE WANTED YOUR OPINION, WE WOULD HAVE SHOOK A MAGIC 8-BALL!!!" - packer backer

"Dear KCForum.net Administrators, I saw where you just had over 80 people looking/listening at one time. How do you do it? Sincerely, 1340AM" - Bubba Clyde

"Rumor has it there's an all-sports station on 1340 but the equipment they stole from Marconi doesn't seem to carry the signal any further than those guys can shout so I can't vouch for them." - Hot Carl

"I was a little disturbed to see such mass agreement that JW's announcement at 5:00 on Wednesday was really the "truth." He made it clear back in June and reiterated it on Wednesday that facts weren't really necessary for his "version of the truth." In fact, he went on to say that he could be proven wrong later with superior information." -leabonics
W: I was quite surprised to see Mr. Leabo join us for a cup of tea on Friday. While I tend to believe a lot of his statements, I agree with some of our members who question why it has taken him this long to talk to us. I also don't understand this mud-slinging between JW and KK. Can we please get back to business before 1340 becomes the leader in KC sports talk?

"The station that delivers the highest quality content, interviews, insight and programming is going to have my ear. I have grown tired of the sophomoric $hit and am ready to get back to what brought me to sports radio to begin with - sports talk." - Brookside Joe
W: My sentiments exactly, Joey-Joe!

"We'll do our best to continue to be journalistic broadcasters for the listener... we aren't perfect, but we'll try to be." -leabonics
W: You can start by putting The Freak back in the unemployment line.

"I think the funniest aspect of this whole thing is that through it all, the one party who has received the most derision from both sides for inaccuracy and axe-grinding is the one who has thus far been correct about everything he's reported...Greg Hall (damn! my cover's blown)" - Soylent Green
W: Usually I have my ear turned towards Soylent. But I have no idea how he figures Greg Hall has already reported this stuff CORRECTLY?

"And Klink... you say KK's gonna be out and replaced by somebody the listeners like? We still have the highest rated sports show in the country. Nearly a 13 share! Maybe that changes, but just because you don't like him doesn't mean people don't like the show. I am biased, but I think the show is pretty damn good." - leabonics
W: Using the words "highest rated sports show in the country" is a little undefined. For one thing, they're a local show, who, up until last week, was competing with a one-dimensional, stuttering Soren Petro whose show aired on a news station - and didn't begin until BTL had been on for 2 hours! This is all about to change, though. Statistics show that 610, no matter how bad they are, will get a piece of that 13 share. Oh, and Leebs? The show is no longer "pretty damn good". It's getting "pretty damn worse".

"Why the hell should we believe ANYTHING to come from LEEBO of all people. He has his head shoved up KKK's ass so far that he might as well be an Ostrich." - Karupt

"I don't think KK got pulled over. You can't get pulled over when the car is in park." - hawkchief
W: Zing!

"Everyone have a good weekend, I'm going to go out tonight and 'faint' at the casinos." - Hot Carl
W:Zing zing!

"Can you confirm or deny that the Prairie Village Police caught KK in a compromising position? If so why didn't WHB report this because if it would have been Carl P or Marty or Gunther you sure would have." - Colonel Klink
W: I am more than disappointed in someone like Klink for asking Leabo that second, silly-ass question. It was Friday, though, so I'll give him a free pass.

"Hang on, I'll get a sketchbook and pencil.....jackass." - A-Train to KC Paul, as he tries to explain "his point".

OTC Comments

GH: "It will be interesting to see if Pork Chop is all fat and no mean. He has promised to tell his 61 Sports listeners all about the inner hypocrisy that permeates WHB. But do not be dismayed if he once again chokes on his courage. Those who read this column regularly already know most of what goes on there (including Whitlock's demeaning behavior) for years."
W: This is what I've been trying to tell everyone. He's not going to say anything.

GH: "Hey, The Landmark is a real newspaper! You're reading it, so we've got that going for us."
W: There can't be that many people reading the Platte County Landmark. I often wonder if Hall makes up the comments he gets from his readers.

GH: "...these are the same people who managed to not sell enough advertising to televise the club's first September pennant race in 18 years."
W: On a serious note, is this why I can't see them on TV anymore? What happened? What did I miss? Anyone? Bueller?

GH: "Willie (known as Willie from KC on the Jim Rome Show) supposedly has 'retired' as a sports talk caller after he was banned from Rome's show for what Rome considered offensive Jewish humor during one of his takes a couple of weeks ago."
W: I haven't said much about the Willie-thing because I think plenty has already been said on kcforum.net. Notice how Hall didn't give a smart-ass opinion, either. I was also pleased to already hear Willie back on the air this week. By the way, Greg. Do your homework. He called himself "Willie in KC" on Rome.

GH: "You've got to love the humility that Allen shows. I'd reserve the term "beloved" for local athletes like Len Dawson, Tom Watson, George Brett and Buck O'Neil. But maybe Marcus was talking about his favorite type of people - blondes."
W: For the record, I'm not a fan of Marcus Allen, myself.

GH: "What do you think about Priest's trademark glide into the end zone? I find it odd that a guy who shuns the media after the game is such a spotlight whore during it. Hand the ball to the ref, Priest and let your stats do the gliding."
W: Mr. Hall and I finally agree on something. Priest, if you fumble that football when you're hot doggin' it into the end zone, so help me God...

GH:(David) Boston goes 260 with 5.5% body fat and still claims he runs a 4.3 forty. He looked like a defensive end lining up as a wide-receiver at Arrowhead. No way his body and his fragile psyche last the season. Trade him now if you have him as a fantasy football starter."
W: Hell, he's already "hurt".

GH: "Did (John) Clayton happen to catch that score out of Miami?
W: Uh...did Miami get blown out and I missed it? Although I couldn't care less about the Dolphins, there is no reason for their fan (Renshaw) to panic. These things happen.

GH: "Did anybody else have a hard time recognizing the new and improved Rocky Balboa in the show's introduction video? Not that plastic surgery is a bad thing but Sly looks younger now than he did when he was first purchasing Cuff and Link from Adrian back in 1976. You can bet Al Michaels got Sly's nip/tuck doc's number."
W: Sly needs to make sure he looks good for Rocky VI. As for Al Michaels...Lord he looks frightening nowadays!

GH: "Hank Stram, is famous for his Super Bowl III sideline antics. But this video of Gruden shown on MNF makes the giddy Stram look like an introvert compared to Gruden's wild-man act. Television has changed everything, especially how we Americans act when the lens is pointed our way."
W: That segment with Gruden watching himself on the sideline during the Super Bowl should win an award. Seriously, it was probably the best 5 minutes of television I have witnessed all year.

GH: "BTW, is there anything in reporting more worthless than these mini-interviews with coaches as they come off or on the field?"
W: The only thing I can think of that more worthless is the space that sometimes gets wasted in Hall's column.

GH: "To all baseball purists who abhor bringing up a the young prospect 'too soon' because they might face adversity and be damaged for life: Here is a college junior who has the packed-in home crowd booing him unmercifully as his team is more than three touchdowns down. Winners win and losers lose. The sooner you find out which one you are, the better. The Royals need to bring up Zack Greinke now."
W: Uh...it's a little late for that now, Gregster.

GH: "If you're not familiar with the business practices of WHB's Chad Boeger, you might wonder how he could strike an $8-million deal with the Royals without mentioning this to the people who he is in business with. Let's just say Boeger is a tad unorganized."
W: He was organized enough to fire you, Greg.

GH: "Whitlock's new show kicked off this week. If Whitlock goes after KK's personal life as he has promised to do, Kietzman has made it clear to WHB employees that he will disclose everything he knows about scandalous behavior involving Whitlock's professional career and he has mentioned including members of the Star's sports staff who have been in less than professional situations. KK has said he knows of incidents including strippers and drugs that should interest his listeners. Check back next week for the fallout."
W: It's sad that KC sports radio has bottomed out like this. All this he-said, she-did crap isn't going to happen. It's all talk. None of these guys are going to risk their slack jobs and fat paychecks over garbage like this.

Week 1 Chiefs-Chargers Thoughts

Who do you think would win in a street fight: David Boston or Ed Hochuli?

I'm not a big fan of "leading with the head" as a defensive penalty. Is it dangerous? Sure, but so's coffee. Is it difficult for referees to call due to the speed of the game? It can be. Is it a difficult action to prevent as a defensive player due to the speed of the game? Definitely. I think the NFL should modify the rule to "if the offensive player's head appears to be separated from his neck..."

The Royals are going to have to accomplish a lot over the next three weeks to get the kind of local recognition they received from April to August. Otherwise, it's going to be all about the Chiefs for the next three and a half months.

If Enrique Iglesias can get "it" removed, why won't Drew Brees do it?

I asked it over and over last season, and after seeing some highlights from other games I've got to start asking again: Who told these teams that wearing the same color pants as jerseys looks good? If the Chiefs start wearing their red pants with their red jerseys this season, I promise to get a hold of Dick Vermeil so I can demand it ceases immediately.

Best of KCFORUM.NET - 7th Edition

I considered making some football picks, but it's about an hour before kickoff right now so I figured it would not be worth it. One question to ponder: Who's worse - Rush Limbaugh or Lisa Guerrero? I say "push".


"I'm not normally one to point out spelling or editing mistakes, but 11 edits has to be some kind of record for two posts. Decide to take up crack as a hobby after getting run from Rome, Willie?" - tonyloser

"What is it about a wedding ring that makes women so aggressive!!!" - dafella
W: I keep hearing this and have NO IDEA what people like dafella are talking about. What am I missing? I got married for a reason, damnit, and no hotties are knocking down MY door."

"My radio is now off. After hearing 10 minutes of him blabbing about the chance of losing Rome and then the bonus 5 minutes about SM North Football, I can't take it anymore. H2K.....Go away and take that leatherface tramp with you!" - hawkchief
W: As I mentioned in the thread that hawkchief started, this was REALLY bad, sad radio. I can't get over how awful the shows have gotten at WHB.

"who am i foolin.. i can't even get 1340 at 85th and Wornall." - ChicagoJeff
W: If 1340 needs a list as to why they have a grand total of 3 listeners, I'd begin with their electric toothbrush-like power.

"I just got an email from a freind of mine who is very uneducated in what is going on reguarding the KC radio scene. His girfriend emaild him the link to go get KC's power rating up on Rome and told him "If you want to keep Rome in KC go vote." It is not keep Rome in KC, it is keep him on 810." - Stugats
W: Aside from it being really bad radio, the misrepresentation that Stugats mentions is even WORSE. I wonder if it is still posted on the site this way?

"The only 2 negatives are the signal strenth and Greg Hall predicted it , so it may not happen." - Bubba Clyde

"If you want to keep the show, then put in the work to keep it. Don't beg the fans!!! It would be one thing if the show was leaving the city, but is not!!!! It is going to the station that is coming off of the most loot!!!!" - packer backer
W: I couldn't agree more. As a sales/marketing guru, it is my number one priority to be PROACTIVE as opposed to REACTIVE.

"Hardly! Granted the H2K-Whitlock escapades have been right on the money. However it often ends there. His analysis of the Royals radio is wrong (and we will figure that out next year when DClink is putting us to sleep on games). His whole Zack Grenke campaign proves he has ignored 1) what Grenke did in AA-struggled most of the way, and 2) what Gobble has gone through in the bigs. Bottom line, Grenke is not ready. To tell you the truth, he is wrong more often then he is right. Yet he does not have a watch dog or any accountability." - Stugats
W: Ditto, ditto, DIT-TO! At the risk of sounding gay - I love Stugats. Oh, what the hell. I'm comfortable with my sexuality, which is hetero, by the way.

"Did he (H2K) happen to mention anything about that scaley bitch sucking his crank over a year ago?" - I-Hawk

"This guy's (H2k) career as a radio talk show host is going down faster than an HB intern at 3:00am." - catkins
W: Although catkins was a little slow on the draw last week, he seems to have jumped on board this week.

"It amazes me how the people who are supposedly radio experts know so little about personality-driven radio and what plays...h2k's credibility (or lack thereof) is certainly fair game and should be addressed by his competition." - bigsexy
W: Shooooore. It's a great way to get listenership for a new radio station. Afterall, it's what everyone wants to hear, because we haven't already heard about it, right?

"Well, cgal, what would make you think that some people from chicago or minneapolis would tell me what to do on radio in kansas city? And what would make you think they would advise me against attacking the competition when that is what transpires on every other personality-driven format across the country? H2k is going to regret every lie he ever told on me. I'm just gonna let the truth fall out and let the chips fall where they may. he better be packing more than a few bachelor party stories and megan's trips to the ncaa tournament that he sabotaged. you know, I actually felt sorry for the guy for a minute and wasn't going to personally interview him the way i did fortune. But i haven't geraldo someone in quite some time..." - bigsexy
W: This guy really is unbelievable. You better believe I'll be listening to your childish actions on the radio, Whitty. It'll give me and you something to talk about when I come in to Quik Trip everyday while you're working there in 2004. My fellow readers, Mr. Whitlock really doesn't have a clue about radio. For him to say "It amazes me how the people who are supposedly radio experts know so little about personality-driven radio and what plays..." is frightening. This tells me A) He actually knows the Big Wigs at En-Tard-Com don't support mud-slinging but B) He makes it sound like he doesn't care and he's going to do it anyway because he wants to be "controversial". It doesn't matter if the Big Wigs are in Chicago or Timbuk 2...they call the shots for all of their markets, regardless of whether they know the market or not. I speak from experience, my friends.

"Big Sexy - does the new show start monday? I think it will be good to hear the truth come out about h2k and whb. Anyone who portrays themselves the way h2k does usualy falls back down to earth pretty hard. Earth or Harrah's casino floor, either way you get my drift." - catkins
W: Then I read this ass-kiss crap from catkins to Porky and I lost any respect for him I had gained. Poor fella.

OTC Comments

GH: "KK is a very talented talk show host. He is very lucky to have found his calling and to be able to excel at it. But he doesn't realize what it is he is - the Jerry Springer of Kansas City sports talk radio. What he does for WHB is no different than what Pork Chop does for The Star - they create an audience by being controversial without the restraints of being accurate."
W: Is it just me, or is this statement contradictory? Is he talented or isn't he? Does it take talent to be controversial without being accurate? Stop pussy-footing and just say it, Greg - "Kevin Kietzman's show is AWFUL!" Then again, Hall is the same guy who thinks Renshaw is oozing with ability.

GH: "How sad is this comment? Kietzman may be a success at radio but he appears to be a joke as a father. You make your own determination of which job - radio host or dad - matters most."
W: I don't know about you folks, but beating up H2K for getting a divorce is getting to be old news on my barometer. It's nice that Greg finally went back to bashing his former co-worker, but wouldn't it be more interesting to hear him critique H2K's crappy show rather than his ability (or lack thereof) to be a good father?

GH: "So do the 12 T-Bones' listeners who recognized Clink's Sioux City call. Make no mistake, Clinkscale will be part of the Royals Radio play-by-play broadcast in some capacity. He didn't travel to Omaha, Sioux City and Des Moines all summer just to work on his putting stroke on sand greens."
W: This is truly a frightening thought and I hope it does not hold true. If Clink doesn't appear on Royals broadcasts next season, will Hall admit he was wrong?

GH: "What I found strange is that Matthews chose to go public with his possible move to Chicago. From Matthews' earlier comments in The Star, it's obvious he's not happy with his situation with the Royals and feels unappreciated. Will things change in the booth now that WHB is the radio rights holder? Let's hope so. Denny's had a great run and is well thought of by many Midwesterners. But he has grown more interested in the pace of the game than in the telling of the story of the game. Listening to him, I feel like he has a dinner reservation for 10 PM and anything that happens in the game to lengthen it makes him very cranky."
W: Maybe Matthews is burnt out on a team that looked so promising before the All Star Break, and now looks like they couldn't win a series against the T-Bones.

GH: "Petro looks to be headed to Dallas for a job that pays one-third of what he was making at KMBZ. Radio is a tough business."
W: Are you getting your salary figures from an email source, maybe Original Stonie?

GH: "About five years ago, Whitlock and I were invited to lunch by three KMBZ suits. They discussed putting us on the air in some minor capacity. I told them what they needed to do was immediately replace Fortune with Whitlock before Kevin Kietzman and KCTE destroyed their market share. They laughed. The two sales managers laughed the loudest. "Maybe in your little world," smiled one of the Entercom sales suits. Maybe not."
W: Pat, pat, pat. Hear that? It's Greg patting himself on the back. He is such a great source for knowing who's good on the radio and who's not; I can't believe KMBZ didn't listen to him. (See also, GH's love for The Freak's embrace.)

GH: "Pork Chop is scheduled to debut on 61 Sports at 2 PM Wednesday, September 10. He is going to tell secrets about his former employer like nothing we have ever seen in Kansas City media."
W: Puh-leeze! If he even so much as says the word "poop" on the air, the big boys at En-Terd-Com will have Porky saying "Hi, may I hep you" for a living.

GH: "Nebraska's Jammal Lord is pretty good on foot as well."
W: As a Husker fan I feel I can legitimately say: "Uh, no. Not really."

GH: "Fox returned from commercial break late and missed the "fake hand-off." But replays showed Smith simply fumbled the snap. Someone but Kadlec out to pasture before he speaks again. This guy is more clueless than a Ricky Clemons' groupie."
W: How about: "More clueless than Lisa Guerrero?"

GH: "Is Nebraska back? Not entirely. The offense smells just as bad as it did in 2002. They look good enough to win eight games which should keep Solich around for another year."
W: After last season, 8-4 looks pretty damn good to Husker fans. As for the offense smelling "just as bad as it did in 2002" - I doubt Greg has watched enough Husker games in the past 12 months to know that he is incorrect.

GH: "This from the hobbit (Joe Paterno) who publicly berates and chastises college officials almost weekly. I'd like to see an Orc or two let loose on JoPa the next time he whines to a zebra."
W:I think this comment was Hall's attempt to make Thursday's column the longest of the year. Another lesson from Sales & Marketing 101 - More is not always better.

GH: "Great. Hope that Arizona Instructional League championship ring is a real shiny sucker."
W: And when Grienke makes the team next season and wins 15 games for the Royals, Hall will say: "See! I told you so!", forgetting that the reason Greinke did well could be attributed to the extra time he spent in the minors. People like Hall and Judd Choate who think Greinke should be in the Majors really have no clue.

GH: "Renshaw needs to stop whining about not getting calls and simply do what he's paid to do - a radio show. It is not the listeners' job to fill time for him. His constant crying about how the sports fans in KC must be overrated because no one is phoning his show at 6:30 AM is lame."
W: No one is calling him because his show is CRAPPY and he doesn't know what he's talking about half the time - unless it's about the Maryland Terps or the Miami Dolphins. I don't understand how Hall can make the statement above about Renshaw doing "lame" things on his show, and in the same breath tell his readers that Renshaw is the best radio talent to ever come to Kansas City.

Just because Hall's column this week was long does not necessarily mean it was a good one. He could've spent a little more time on the REALLY BAD radio that occurred after WHB announced it had won the bidding war for the Royals radio broadcasting rights and a little less time on the ho-hum of H2K's hummer and marriage dissolution. Come on, Greg! Critique the bad radio (and TV) that is broadcast everyday in Kansas City. The truth is, Hall's not very good at critiquing air talent, but is very good at speculating through shady sources, attacking people on a personal level, and gaining some revenge on all the people who have spited him throughout his pogo-stick career in the Kansas City media. When reading Off The Couch, it's imperative that one keeps Hall's past in the forefront of their mind.